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Hi,

thanks for the hint. EWMuonDecayTree is missing an FCRenameDummyIndices

in the part where the matrix element is squared: I backported this

example from the current development version where ComplexConjugate

applies FCRenameDummyIndices by default. In FeynCalc 9.2 this is yet not

the case. Should be now fixed.

https://github.com/FeynCalc/feyncalc/commit/51d72bc5467e016d117ccbe8b2bf74ecdb3d1d65

I suppose that your code might have the same issue.

In general, FeynCalc is not very efficient for calculating squared

matrix elements. It works fast enough for simple cases with few

diagrams, but realistic calculations tend to become painfully slow.

Some people tend to overcome that using helicity amplitude methods.

Others (like myself), delegate the calculation of M^2 to FORM.

Cheers,

Vladyslav

Am 27.02.2018 um 20:29 schrieb Pedro:

*> Dear all,
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*> I am calculating a simple diagram and the program is returning the wrong answer.
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*> I have looked up my code thousand times and I don't think it has an error (plus I run the EWMuonDecayTree example and it gave me the same wrong answer....)
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*> Is this a bug or am I missing something very trivial?
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*> The proble is the following:
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*> I am calculating the muon decay matrix element, using the following code:
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*> (* Beging of the code *)
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*> (*This is Gf/Sqrt[2]Overscript[u, _](p3)\[Gamma]^a(1-\[Gamma]^5)u(p1) (muon curent) *)
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*> j\[Mu] = Gf/Sqrt[2]*Spinor[p3, 0].GA[a].(1 - GA[5]).Spinor[p1, m\[Mu]];
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*> (*This is Gf/Sqrt[2]Overscript[u, _](p4)\[Gamma]^a(1-\[Gamma]^5)v(p2) (electron curent) *)
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*> je = Gf/Sqrt[2] Spinor[p4, me].GA[b].(1 - GA[5]).Spinor[-p2, 0];
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*> (*This is to contract the \[Gamma] matrices*)
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*> M = (j\[Mu] MT[a, b] je // Contract);
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*> (* Matrix element <|M|^2>. Should be 64 Gf^2 (p1.p2)(p3.p4), see e.g. Griffths *)
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*> FermionSpinSum[M*ComplexConjugate[M]] /. DiracTrace -> TR
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*> (*End of the code *)
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*> The result it is giving is: 64 Gf^2 (p1.p3)(p2.p4) and not the well known 64 Gf^2 (p1.p2)(p3.p4).
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*> Now, if I run the EWMuonDecayTree example, it will show in the last line
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*> Check with the Okun, Chapter 3.2:CORRECT.
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*> But only because it is checking the final total decay rate and not the intermediate step (by lucky, it gave the correct result). If you run the EWMuonDecayTree, in the third output, after the Feynman Diagram, you will find the equivalent expression. Notice that the program gives ~(k.q1)(p.q2) which should be ~(k.q2)(p.q1)
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*> I am currently using version 9.2.0 and I also tested it on 8.2.0 and it gave the same results.
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*> Is there something wrong with my code and the example?
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*> thanks
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